Archived on 6/5/2022

The ulez boundary

Kevin_Dowson
25 Sep '21

Hi everyone my name is kevin i live in sydenham does anyone know if the ulez boundary comes into the SE26 postcode and will i have to change my route to work i work in Erith is brown hill catford part of the ulez zone which comes into effect from 25th october

ThorNogson
25 Sep '21

Hi Kevin. If your vehicle meets the ULEZ requirements then the new boundary makes no difference at all.
The boundary goes as far as the north and south circular roads but doesn’t include them, so non compliant vehicles on the south circular won’t have to pay as long as they don’t go inside the zone.

applespider
25 Sep '21

@ThorNogson link gives all the details so you can check your vehicle compliance.

Here’s a link to a high level map of Lambeth, Southwark, Lewisham and Greenwich that should help you figure out if your route needs to change

marymck
25 Sep '21

Thanks for the link @ThorNogson
I used it to check my car and I have to pay £15 to £17.50 per day
My car has never failed an emissions test - always comes out with a really good score. It has a good quality, newish catalytic convertor. It’s a small lightweight car, so emits much fewer particulates from tyres than heavier electric vehicles.
I have to make regular trips, by car, to King’s.
I’m really quite cross about this.

ThorNogson
25 Sep '21

That’s rough, if you look up in general what vehicles comply, you quickly find this.

  • Virtually all petrol cars sold from 2005, plus some registered between 2001 and 2005, petrol vans sold after 2006 and motorbikes registered after July 2007 are ULEZ-compliant.
Beige
25 Sep '21

So is it elibigle for the charge simply by virtue of being a diesel?

marymck
25 Sep '21

It’s not a diesel. It uses that unleaded new fuel (E10? the cheaper one anyway).
Shame too that I can’t go to Shannon’s any more.

marymck
25 Sep '21

2006 Honda Jazz. Yes I was quite surprised I would have to pay. Honda cats are really efficient.

Hillster
25 Sep '21

You should only need to pay the central London congestion charge with a 2006 Jazz. My slightly older Jazz isn’t caught by the ULEZ charge.

marymck
25 Sep '21

I used the link that @ThorNogson provided to check my reg number and that said I had to pay. I think a lot of people will get caught out thinking, like I did, that their car is young enough not to have to pay.

oakr
25 Sep '21

I think the link is not clear. I am sure I have read that if it says the £15 a day that is the congestion charge, not the Ulez which is £12.50 a day I think.

Also keep in mind you only get charged for either when you drive the car, so if you are parked 6 days out of 7 you only pay for one day.

If however the car is not Ulez compliant AND you need to travel into the congestion zone, then I think that is £27.50 per day you do it.

Edit I just checked our vehicle which I know is compliant and got the, if you got the same message you are liable for the congestion charge but not the Ulez (not at the top it says liable for one charge):

I think it’s deliberately unclear.

Hillster
25 Sep '21

Yes I did the same and had a brief panic that our car wasn’t ULEZ compliant. It is and the only charge we need to pay is the central London congestion charge. Worth double checking as your car is newer than ours.

marymck
25 Sep '21

Phew yes that’s the page I get. That is a relief. Thanks so much all who helped me navigate this.

Emak5
25 Sep '21

I wonder is the vehicle checker just advising that vehicles are only liable for the congestion charge (ie £15-17.50) because the Ulez expansion charges are not currently in place?

I was sure I understood what I would have to pay/or where I couldn’t drive anymore & now I’m just confused.

oakr
25 Sep '21

No, I am sure it tells you if you also have to pay for Ulez. If you only see congestoin charge, you are Ulez complaint.

oakr
25 Sep '21

Have done a search for a non-Ulez compliant car and this is what you should see (note 2 charges and the Ulez bit listed), as opposed to the 1 charge and only congestion charge listed for a compliant car image above:


Emak5
25 Sep '21

@oakr you have made my day. Thank you.

Rosered
28 Sep '21

I think it’s done on the age of the vehicle - as that presumably indicates which euro standard it meets. I think it needs to meet euro6 to be exempt. My old 1.4L engine Clio was from 2000 and also always passed the relevant emissions tests as part of MOT, but didn’t meet the euro6 requirements. It was 18 years old so I was changing it anyway. Bizarrely my 2L engine Mazda does meet the standard!

it’s v annoying for you though :confused:

Beige
28 Sep '21

Check out the update:

Meadow
28 Sep '21

I’ve just put the registration of my last car - 2003 Honda Civic scrapped in April - and it clearly states that it’s liable for the congestion charge but NOT for ULEZ. You’re good to go.

Sadly my current hybrid car isn’t congestion charge exempt like it would have been a few years ago. Ho hum, I’d not consider driving into central London anyway.

smiris
29 Sep '21

Hello, I have another question I’m hoping people can help me with. How is this going to be monitored? I understand there will be cameras when you enter the ULEZ zone, like the congestion charge, but if you’re driving around within the zone how will your movements be captured? I have a ULEZ compatible car by the way, but I’m just interested to know what will stop people driving within the zone (not just crossing into it from outside the boundary) in non compatible cars.
Thanks

Nivag
29 Sep '21

There are cameras setup at the boundary line to capture the numberplate of all the vehicles entering the zone. The same that the congestion zone has.

oakr
29 Sep '21

I think @smiris is asking if you are in the zone already and don’t leave it, how will it know you are driving in it. So you live on the zone, drive to somewhere else in the zone, without ever crossing an entry / exit point -how would that be monitored?

applespider
29 Sep '21

I’d expect there will be some additional cameras inside the zone at strategic points to pick up interzonal journeys. They won’t get all of them but presumably enough to make it worthwhile.