Bike Hangars


#16

Something like this http://winerides.co.uk/bromley-how-to-get-a-bike-hangar-on-your-street/#.V_9sQ_krJpg might be a way forward?


#17

I like this. I’ve pasted the conclusion at the bottom of the article below. In Como Road, who is the councillor that we could contact about this?

Key things to remember:
• This is not the first one, there are loads in Lambeth. This is nothing new.
• Where they exist they are VERY popular.
• They are no uglier than any other piece of street furniture. There is no problem installing them in conservation areas.
• They will ask why you can’t have it on your property: You need an answer for that.

Finally: If you do want one of these then Fairness is fundamental.
Without whingeing and always being seen to be reasonable: you have to
frame it in terms of what’s fair: 6 people get bike parking for half a
car parking space. It’s an accident of history that cars can park all
over the place, and that is “normal”. Cars spend 90% of their existence
parked, we only want bike hangars because our bikes are in constant use.
Once you have one there is no looking back: I love ours. We have even
repainted all the walls in our hallway. No longer do I need to lug a
wet bike up the stairs on my shoulder. I am getting to meet the other
cyclists on my street! Now I don’t know what I would do without it.


#18

The relevant councillors seem to be John Paschoud, Alan Till and Susan Wise (see http://councilmeetings.lewisham.gov.uk/mgMemberIndex.aspx?FN=WARD).
I’m not sure which of them would be the most appropriate but am happy to draft/ help draft a letter to them!

And possibly to leaflet as well- There is a useful leaflet here: http://www.cyclehoop.rentals/suggest-location/ that could be used for this?


#19

@John_Paschoud is on the forum and may be able to advise?


#20

Thanks @ChrisBeach . Will your reply flag his name is in this thread? I’m not sure I know how/ have the right to send him a direct message?


#21

Yes, he’s been notified by email about this thread.

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#22

Having moved into Lewisham from Southwark in March, I am finding many things missing I took for granted in that other borough.


#24

As an update @John_Paschoud contacted me via private message (and due to some technical incompetence on my part I accidentally posted my reply to him above) so I have forwarded on details of the kind of thing we are after and he said he will contact the highways team.

Here’s hoping we can move forward from here.


#25

There was draft Cycle Strategy for Lewisham circulating during the summer. The Council was due to adopt this at some point but I don’t know where it’s gotten to. It might be worth checking on this as it should contain something covering cycle hangars.

It’s a shame that Lewisham Council are not more supportive of this. Not only is it super efficient (replacing one car parking space with up to 12 bike parking spaces), but they’re made right here in Forest Hill so it would be supporting local enterprise.


#26

Here are a couple of photos of Como Road yesterday. Four bikes parked next to lampposts. I haven’t yet had a reply from the council about whether the footpath constitutes public highway or not but I also note that cars park (and therefore drive) on the footpath for about half the length of the road.


#27

I can clarify that generally speaking, yes the footway is part of the public highway.
Not sure if driving on the footway is illegal, I think it is, but as the footway is built to a much lower strength tolerance than the carriageway then driving on the FW will certainly wear it out quicker. Parking on the FW, or part on part off, is sometimes allowed in marked bays. Sometimes if you didn’t park on the FW on both sides you wouldn’t have room for another car able to drive down the road!


#28

Thanks for the info on public highways, @Jon_Robinson. In terms of the ‘estate roads’ mentioned in the email from Lewisham highways

I wonder if that includes the cut through between Trilby and Sunderland Rds? I’ve got some time coming up to be able to spend on this, so will be starting a mini-campaign to get some action from Lewisham on this, but would like to have as many facts as possible before I start.


#29

Hi @comoed - interesting question, that could be a place where one could go! Though how safe people would feel using it might be questionable? Willing to help out if there’s anything you’d like some help with!


#30

Ive had a reply from cyclehoop about costs, so have forwarded on to @John_Paschoud regarding their cost details for a bike hanger. For everyone else, details are:


The cost of a Bikehangar is £2,850 plus £400 for installation and delivery.
Total = £3,250 ex. VAT
There is then a rentals cost which covers management and maintenance of the Bikehangars, in some boroughs this is part subsided by the council.
If there is no subsidy, the cost per user per year is £60+VAT.
Our contact at the council is Nick Harvey, Cycling Programme Manager, Nick.Harvey@lewisham.gov.uk.


#31

Hi Lee - Ive been thinking about the best way forward, and have a number of ideas, some of which I’ve shared with the council (no reply just yet). I think perhaps doing leafleting with the cards you linked to above might be an idea, but delivering them in person on say, a Saturday afternoon might help a little more. Perhaps we could meet up to discuss? Anyone else interested?


#32

Happy to have some of the cards at the shop to give to my customers that cycle if it helps :slight_smile:


#33

Thanks for your kind offer @Pauline but the idea of bike hangers is that they are used by people who live in the close vicinity. In our case its really only the people who live on our street or very nearby that would be affected. I’m hoping that by going door to door that we can meet a few more of our neighbours and get them behind this so that its easier to make the short trips by bike more viable and therefore take cars off the road = less pollution and friendlier streets etc etc.

By the way, I rode down to B&Q at Bell Green yesterday to get a few DIY odds and ends, it only took 4 mins by bike and you get to park right out the front of the shop. It nearly took longer to lock my bike up than actually ride it there. I was amazed, and this from someone who cycles a lot.


#34

It took me a long time to work out that this thread was about bike hangars (which I’ve never heard of before) rather than bike hangers (hadn’t heard of them either, but they’re hooks for hanging bikes off walls, apparently).


#35

I have amended the thread’s title to avoid others being similarly confused.


#36

Well I’m afraid, for the time being the thread will have to stop here. I finally got a reply from the council and they have informed me that they are still creating a policy. Contractors have to be chosen for implementation and a programme needs to be devised.

They are expecting to have a method for residents being able to request a bike hangar by Feb 2017. (sigh)

In the meantime other boroughs are forging ahead