Premises next to Clapton Craft?

Any ideas what’s going on to the premises next to Clapton Craft? Lots of work taking place it seems …

This place? It hasn’t had a store there for about 10 years, so it will be interesting to see what they do to it.

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Intriguing. Although I’m pretty sure we can rule out Waitrose (again)…

Is there some action at the store then? It’s been brushed with that white stuff for a while as per pics.

Wasn’t there chat about waterford’s old site changing?

Do you mean Waters Fishmonger Greengrocer @ 14 Perry Vale ?

That’s the one! Been a while.

That’s the one. There have been workmen (chippies) in there for the past couple of weeks.

Well that sounds promising. If it’s anything like Clapton or the Olives shop we’ll all be very happy.

Would love to see a hairdressers or nail bar ideally

I can’t believe there isn’t a single estate agent on that whole parade. There’s clearly a gap in the market.

But on a serious note, what do people think of pedestrianising this street? You could have decent bin storage and space for places like piazza della cucina to allow outside dining. Not sure the road itself is needed for traffic other than access?

I’ve proposed this in an older topic.

I think it’d be a great idea - especially as there’s a school on #perry-vale that would benefit from traffic reduction, and many businesses that would benefit from being able to lay out seating in the street area. The pedestrianisation of Coulgate St in Brockley has been a roaring success.

What would be the process of actually doing this? I presume we’d have to canvass residents and businesses to gauge support, then take that as evidence to the council? Anyone got any experience of actually making this happen?

If the Perry Vale / South Circ junction were to be rethought so you could turn right onto the South Circ, that might not be an issue. With the other developments in that area (assuming they all complete in the current climate), a little pedestrian type area might do well there - it would have to be called Piazza Della Cucina of course!

Piazza Della Cucina has an amazing outside area out the back. Would highly recommend.

Yes, it feels a bit like being on holiday out the back there - a lovely little spot.

Considering they are in part red route I guess Tfl will just say no. Plus to fully utilise you would need to connect properly to London Road - so fixing the lights and widening the subway.

Its a nice idea - personally I would like to see the station brought back to 4 platforms (there is space) and in the process they can fix the horrible double 90 degree bend in A205 (only seen two cycle vs car accidents in the last week)

Oh god that was a horrible sight this week. I hope the cyclist was ok.

If ever there was a big enough incentive for the council/TFL to bloody do something about the Devonshire Road/South circular junction the incidents were definitely a reminder! The mentality of the aggressive drivers beeping the standstill traffic whilst emergency services assisted the injured person was sickening and just shows how thoughtless the drivers are as they zoom through our lovely neighbourhood.

Which crash are you talking about? The one yesterday seemed quite calm. The one last Weds I don’t think was attended.
I might be forgetting one…

There was one on Monday evening, a cyclist…I’m assuming had been knocked off their bike at the Devonshire Road/South circular junction. Looked pretty bad, ambulance crew in attendance and police taking statements. Was really upsetting to see. They really need to slow the traffic as it whizzes around the bend to/from the bridge - cyclists don’t stand a chance!

Yes that’s a particularly nasty junction as you come down the hill with cars pulling into and out of Devonshire Rd. It’s not fun getting picked up off the floor as a cyclist, trust me. Stay safe everyone.

There’s lots of rubble and a hole in the floor…

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That hole has been there for about 6 months

It’s going to be a Shawshank Redemption themed speakeasy where the bar is in a hand-tunnelled cave under the floor, hidden under a Racquel Welch poster.

Hey everyone,
I am doing a little more research into what people might want this shop to be, along with finding out if an eco friendly, coffee shop (to dine in or out) that sells some nice cakes and a few bits to eat, along with plants and pots would be of interest to the residents of forest hill. I’ve lived here for 2 years and am desperate for a coffee shop on our side!!
Please can you take this survey, it only takes 2 minutes!

Thank you,
Christina - plant lover of forest hill x

Hi Christina. To make sure you get relevant and useful answers to your survey questions may I suggest you “tighten up” some of the questions?
E.g. Your first question as it stands appears to be a general one referring to purchasing coffee but if you want people to answer in relation to purchasing coffee locally in Forest Hill then I would add “in Forest Hill”. Do you need to know if people that are purchasing coffee locally are having it “in store” or as takeaway? There is no option for frequency of purchasing houseplants between several times a year and never. That’s quite a gap.

Does this mean you’re thinking of leasing this building or have done so already?

I personally would love a wine/cocktail bar. FH is a little swamped by coffee shops, nail salons, pizza places and estate agents.

Would be nice to have an adult social place for evenings that isn’t in a pub environment. Something along the same lines as “Grounds and Grapes” in HOP.

Obviously the planning permission around this is more difficult than a coffee shop.

I would echo Lj, I think we need something a little more enticing.
Living roughly halfway between Forest Hill and Honor Oak, I tend to go much more local for coffee anyway (no.41), but if not there’s already lots on offer in FH. Honor Oak draws me in a bit more because there’s more of a social side with g&g and two spoons - a nice place for a drink or two that’s more laid back than a pub. Appreciate it’s not easy for small wine bar type businesses to flourish right now given social distancing measures…

This is actually a great idea…

Agree

With all the flats that have been squeezed into 8/10 Perry Vale I would be surprised if there is enough space for a wine/cocktail bar.

Looks like the hole has been filled and things tidied up a bit:

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Perhaps we can hope for some more developments in the new year?

I would love to see a zebra crossing to get across the busy slow but busy road - we ( me toddler) dice for death every morning to get across to the train under-passage

Agree. There are several spots in the area that are so dangerous to cross yet Lewisham turns a blind eye to requests for crossings.

Back on topic,does anyone know of any plans for the Premises next to Clapton Craft ?
It has been empty for at least eight years to my knowledge.