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SE23 Water Leaks 2021

DevonishForester
7 Jan '21

Thought I would start a new thread for the New Year.

There’s a newish leak at the junction of Tyson Road and Devonshire Road. The upward pressure seems to be causing the road surface to break up. It will be a tricky one to work on because of the heavy traffic, and Lewisham’s reluctance to close roads for works to be carried out.

divya_m
7 Jan '21

There is also one on Honor Oak Road that is flowing into Manor Mount. Been going on since at least Christmas

PennieH
7 Jan '21

Water’s been gushing out of Havelock House service road, Honor Oak Road for a few weeks now. Getting worse all the time. It cascades down the road, then down Manor Mount to Waldenshaw. Last week it was icy over road and pavement on Manor Mount. Not sure if it is down to Thames Water to fix, or Dolphin Living who own the flats.

divya_m
7 Jan '21

@SophieDavis would you happen to know who to contact about this leak? It’s been going on for several weeks now.

SophieDavis
8 Jan '21

Yes, we’re aware and @LeoGibbons has been dealing with it, liaising with officers, Thames Water and Dolphin Living. The responsibility is that of Dolphin Living but Thames Water also have to carry out enforcement action against the property owner for wasting clean water. Our officers have written to Dolphin Living to remind them that it is an offence under Section 163 of the Highways Act 1980 to leak water from a private property onto the public highway and that they will be liable for any accidents that occur due to their water leak. In the meantime, I understand that Council officers gritted the road last night.

Nivag
9 Jan '21

I hope you’re going to charge them for any damage done due to water erosion.
You can already see it’s lifting the road in places.

PennieH
9 Jan '21

And Thames Water keep sending out their engineers, who shrug their shoulders and go away. Three vans here at 1am yesterday morning! Why can’t Thames Water fix it and then charge the owner? A gas leak wouldn’t be left just because it was on private property.

maxrocks
10 Jan '21

Its like a small stream running down Honor oak road now and water bubbling up from manhole covers at the junction with London road on the pavement.
In this icy weather at is dangerous for all especially Blind people walking to Sainsbury’s and the elderly.

forrester
11 Jan '21

There is now a large build up of water on Waldenshaw Road because of this leak, as we are at the bottom of the hill and have issues with the road drainage

@SophieDavis @LeoGibbons it’s really not a satisfactory situation, but it sounds like only Dolphin Living can do anything about it? Not good

divya_m
11 Jan '21

Thames water van is here now. Are you sure this is because of the same leak? It’s a massive puddle now and blocking the pavement and almost entering a neighbouring property.

Jo1234
11 Jan '21

Hello,
I have been watching this water flow for a few days, I think there is some additional leak on London Road or Honor Oak Road but near London Road side happening sometime today, so the opposite of Tesco garage there are more water now. Then the water is going into Waldenshaw Road from London Road side.

Nivag
11 Jan '21

This is the chief executive of Dolphin Living https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-harris-5a248a25

Also their Twitter handle for what it’s worth, https://twitter.com/dolphinliving

forrester
12 Jan '21

I think there are two leaks - the one on Honor Oak Road that is flowing down and then another on Waldenshaw Road itself

Great!

Jennie
14 Jan '21

There was a massive leak on London Road opposite the Horniman 2 days ago. I don’t know if that’s been fixed yet. It has severely damaged the road.

SophieDavis
14 Jan '21

Hi all,

Sorry for the delay. @LeoGibbons and I have been liaising with Dolphin Living & Thames Water, and our officers have been doing the same.

As mentioned before, the leak from Havelock House is a Dolphin issue (Thames Water have been saying that it isn’t their responsibility). Dolphin told us that the delays have been due to them not being able to find a commercial plumber, as the work required more than a traditional plumber. I was told yesterday that the leak had now been identified and would be fixed in the next 24 hours (so by today). I am not on site today so if that’s not the case let me know.

Our Highways dept will be putting extra grit down as a safety measure on Honor Oak Road.

I understand that Thames Water have now taken over the large pot hole/water leak that is outside 191 Honor Oak Road with their own barriers and traffic management, which would seem to confirm that it is a separate water leak to the one at Havelock House. We are following this up with Thames Water.

@Jennie I am not aware of a separate leak on London Road. Do you know where it’s coming from and have you notified anyone about it?

Thanks,
Sophie

Jennie
14 Jan '21

It seemed to be coming out of the road at various points opposite the museum. I haven’t notified anyone as the bus stop was closed and ‘lane closed’ signage up diverting traffic around it, so it definitely looked like it was known about

SophieDavis
14 Jan '21

Thanks @Jennie. It it doesn’t get fixed, please take pics and send them to me with exact location (cllr_sophie.davis@lewisham.gov.uk) and I’ll look into it.

marymck
14 Jan '21

Up on Sydenham Hill we have a lot of apparent water leaks that Thames Water can’t fix because they come from natural springs.

HillLife
14 Jan '21

This one is still here!

Fishface
14 Jan '21

No Water on Devonshire Road for me!

DevonishForester
14 Jan '21

an impressive gusher!

One of the drains is blocked.

There’s another new leak, at the junction of Pearcefield Avenue and Davids Road - again this one coming up through the road surface. Can all this water be from leaking pipes, or is some of it coming from natural springs?

RedChilli
15 Jan '21

We have a natural spring that runs under our house. That’s why I am posting at 4am, as we have to pump out the cellar every half hour and it’s my shift now!

HannahM
15 Jan '21

I wonder if the water went off over night? The taps gurled and shook impressively when I turned them on for a shower this morning.

marymck
15 Jan '21

It would be really good if we could draw up a map of where these natural strings are popping up. There are environmental agency maps but they don’t seem to be kept up to date and with all the building work that’s going on and vast number of mature and maturing tree removals it might help Planning department who at the moment just rely on developers supplying a rather inadequate “flood map” that assumes hills don’t flood. They never look below the surface.

I don’t have the IT skills to set something up, but maybe some skilled people on here would be willing to help set up a thread where we can pool our info on a map would be possible? I have various bits of maps that could be incorporated and give clues but don’t know how to do it.

SophieDavis
15 Jan '21

On the Waldenshaw leak - officers have had the Council’s road gullies at this location out several times recently, but there is still flooding in the road during rainfall which we think may be due to the Thames Water sewer being blocked. We have contacted Thames Water about this but so far they haven’t taken any action - we’ll continue to press them.

Fishface
15 Jan '21

oh shhhhiiiiiiiit :sweat_smile:

divya_m
19 Jan '21

Two Thames water vans and a suction truck have been out to presumably fix the leak this morning. They have all been idling with engines on for over 2 hours and done nothing except put out a few cones and barriers!

DevonishForester
29 Jan '21

Still seems to be leaking, unless it’s a second leak near that location.

Meanwhile there’s a new leak on Honor Oak Road, near the junction with Tyson Road.

Also one or two small springs or leaks near the top of Ringmore Rise.

ForestHull
5 Feb '21

7 posts were split to a new topic: Forest Hill Springs

Nivag
10 Feb '21

There’s low/no water pressure on Honor Oak Road at the moment. Another leak at the top of Manor Mount.

Jennie
12 Feb '21

Manor Mount was like a waterfall yesterday. It’s absolutely crazy the number of leaks that have been occurring over the past few months.

Nivag
12 Feb '21

The two holes have been partially filled in and the pressure is back to normal.
It took a few days before they tarmac’d the top and the temporary lights to go the last time.

maxrocks
12 Feb '21

Really bad leak on London Road near Matoom The pavement is sheet ice and you have to walk in the road to avoid the risk of a fall.
No idea where its coming from though

HannahM
12 Feb '21

There was a burst water pipe from the flat above the barbers.

Cari_Hoskins
20 Feb '21

Honor Oak park is riddled with leaks again. 3 sets of temporary lights between the Sainsbury’s local and the junction with Honor Oak Road.
The leak at the top junction had such force last week it created a volcano style cone in the tarmac with a tiny hole at the top shooting water out. After about an hour the whole thing opened up. A shame that road had brand new surfacing less than 12months ago.