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Artist Raising Funds to Convert Spire Apartment for Studio Use

Google_News
8 Sep '21

My London News are reporting on a campaign by local artist Henrik Delehag, who lives and works in Christchurch tower, on Church Rise. They are trying to raise £1m in order to buy the property from the current land lord so that they can turn it into an artists’ haven:

The full article gives a bit more context as well as a few new images of inside the nine storey tower, noting we previously covered the attempted sale of the flat in the tower back in February, when it was listed for £1.5m, see 2 bedroom flat for sale in Church Rise.

A bit more information on the campaign and about Henrik can also be found at his online store, where donations to his campaign can be made, alongside the sale of songs of his works:

ThorNogson
8 Sep '21

Don’t get it. Isn’t the church grade 2 listed. So it can’t be demolished and turned into flats? And the tower is already developed into living space over several floors. Sounds like it’s for sale for £1 m now instead of £1.5 m.

More info from the artist here, includes many more pics.

https://delehag.com/totem

starman
8 Sep '21

There are already a number of flats in the church which was largely converted years ago. There also remains a community space which is used by a daycare centre, a choir. The spire is a single property spread over many levels and was recently listed for sale though I can’t find the listing right now.

Edit: reading the link Thor gave it sounds as if the concern is the spire could be split into more flats? And the proposal is to change it to an art space. Interesting prospect.

Nadia
8 Sep '21

Is it this one? Listed to rent?
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/94545365#/?channel=RES_LET

ThorNogson
8 Sep '21

yes that’s it. If you follow the video tour (which is a really good tour of all floors, with views) its a little difficult to see how the spire could be converted into more than one flat, given constraint of space and the need for stairs.

The artist claims to have raised over £250k towards the £1m to buy it by selling quite large quantities of his art work.

Dave
8 Sep '21

If I was the landlord / freeholder I would be slightly worried that the current tenant is apparently selling the stones of the building.

marymck
8 Sep '21

What!??! It’s a Grade II Listed building! Surely he can’t legally do that?

The spire post dates my house and I love the idea that the former occupants would have watched the spire grow up.

Audrey_Finch
8 Sep '21

I don’t think he is literally. It’s just representative of an investment from what it looks like.

ChrisR
8 Sep '21

I can’t see anything on his website that indicates he’s selling the stones of the building! It’s his artwork that’s for sale.

ThorNogson
8 Sep '21

Yes he’s selling a kind of sponsorship / patronage of various spire features for a fixed amount. Has someone really already pledged £50 k to be patron of the clock. Eye watering. Or perhaps visionary.

Dave
8 Sep '21

Yup - this is it. The “sale” was virtual. It’s been changed on his website now but earlier this year you could “purchase” a stone.

I don’t really understand - is the idea to buy the apartment from the current owner? Who would then own it? A collective or the artist himself?

Audrey_Finch
8 Sep '21

You’d assume it would be owned as an asset of a company with appropriate shareholders or some such but it’s not that clear it is?

ThorNogson
8 Sep '21

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTNaT18DPDH/?utm_medium=copy_link

Hope this link to his Instagram works here. Every stone has been mapped using a drone and numbered so that a stone certificate can be issued to each purchaser of art work. Got to admire what has gone in to this project.

It’s not yet clear to me who will own the building but the artist seems sincere and is clear that he wants it to be a kind of community asset and talks of setting up a trust of some kind.

JohnH1
13 Sep '21

Putting money into this sounds highly risky to me.

  1. The land still appears to be owned by the Church of England so the £1mil is most likely only buying a lease and if that’s true how can you sell individual parts of it?
  2. He intends to set up a trust. Where is all the money going in the meantime? And what guarantees are there that it will be returned if the venture fails?
  3. The spire is part of a listed building with attendant expensive upkeep bills and everything that the landlord deems to need doing will require permission from Historic England. Who will pay for that?
  4. And probably other drawbacks I haven’t thought of.
Troy_McClure
13 Sep '21

But apart from that seems like a pretty good investment…

marymck
13 Sep '21

But what’s a “Totem of Reality” and what does “Vullonday” mean?

I wonder if the CofE is aware of this? The Spire is a leasehold flat. I assume that the freeholder is the CofE? But even if not, there is sometimes liability for maintenance and repairs to Church buildings that has come as a costly surprise to some. It’s called Chancel Repair Liability. Of course I don’t know if that would be the case here, but if I were investing, I’d want to know more.

ThorNogson
13 Sep '21

Good questions here and you’d be nuts to invest money on the strength of what we know. But no one is investing are they? If they were there would be a raft of financial services regulation to navigate. People are just being encouraged to buy artwork that they like at a certain price. The rest is just marketing where he explains what he’d like to do with the proceeds.

If he doesn’t hit target, he can’t buy the tower but there’s no money to return - he will have made some money by legitimately selling his work.

Anotherjohn
13 Sep '21

Surely, if that happens, as the aim is a charitable one and most of the sales of his artwork would not have occurred, the artist will donate a big chunk of the proceeds to help artists in some way.

Dave
13 Sep '21

I genuinely don’t get it. His website says “ Artist Henrik Delehag is raising the funds to prevent a 19th century south-London church Tower from being turned into luxury flats.” but surely the tower has been turned into luxury flats already quite some time ago. And it will stay as flats unless the freeholder changes their mind.

If there’s a detailed plan to do something with the flat (which as far as I can see he’s currently living in and using as a studio) then maybe that can be shared.

marymck
13 Sep '21

To be fair, he does say: Should we fail with the mission to secure the Tower, you will be reimbursed the full amount.

That’s in the Patronage page. So I imagine it won’t apply if someone’s bought a piece of art, rather than a Patronage, which is the stone equivalent of all those campaigns about adopting something cuddly with a face (the sort where tiger cubs win over endangered slugs everything time).

https://delehag.store/collections/investing/products/copy-of-studio-window-a-view-from-the-window

ThorNogson
14 Sep '21

Yes you’d think wouldn’t you. But there is no actual charity involved and so that’s probably just a moral and financial decision for him. Charity fundraising is strongly regulated with clear requirements on how charitably raised funds must be used. If he’d set up a trust or charity it would be very different, but this is just a private individual selling stuff.

And of course also selling these high value patronage packages as @marymck points out.

Doesn’t look as though he’ll reach the target, but then again he’s not been pushing this locally, he has some 50k international fans of his work to draw upon so who knows.

Michael
14 Sep '21

Disappointingly it wasn’t on the Sydenham Artists Trail. A missed opportunity to open up the studio to the public and to get more support.

Henrik_Delehag
15 Sep '21

Hi all, I’m Henrik, the artist himself, here to hopefully iron out a few misperceptions. It was always my intention with my fundraiser to raise enough money to buy the tower so that I can literally give it away. In doing so, the tower would become a place of creativity for 100 artists for the next 100 years, which is approximately what remains of the lease. But as today is the last day of my campaign it is clear that I have failed in my attempts to secure the space for these artists. A few months ago, I was told that the tower was to undergo a a further stage of development and then sold as a luxury apartment. On hearing this news I made the split-second decision to try to secure it so it could become a home and workplace for these artists and their families for years to come. My belief is that this deconsecrated church may have lost its original function, but it does not change the fact that it is still our revered and structural centre and literally the pillar of our community. It should stand for something and be in a two-way conversation with the world and community around it. I truly believe that after living and working in the tower that it still has so much to give. Admittedly, due to insane time-constraints, I had to throw myself at the task of raising the money without understanding every aspect involved. Over the course of the campaign I have had to formulate and then re-formulate the task as I gained new knowledge. I quickly found out for example that my first attempt of selling the metaphorical stones of the building was not an appropriate route to take and was forced to change my approach. What has been very clear from the start though is that, this was always going to be a wild ride, with me working out the details on the fly. Unfortunately it is now clear the fundraiser is not going to work out in my favour, so my plan is to reimburse the better portion of the funds accrued along the way and what remains from my sales I will put to good use, once I’ve regained my breath. As an artist I want to find new ways to challenge the structures and systems that we find ourselves so hopelessly stuck in. The tower would have been a great place to do that, for me and for the generations of artists to come. In fact I believe the greatest piece of art would have been to raise all that money to buy it, to then just to give it away for a good cause. But it wasn’t to be - this time. Stay tuned.

PS! Any questions regarding any of your points of discussion, please just shoot me an email, or better still - come up to the tower for a chat and I’ll give you the grand tour. A film maker has been following me for the past month or so and would be interested to film me having a chat with anybody, especially those who are local and may have a view on my endeavours, negative or positive. I will be here for a couple of weeks still:) For contact details head over to my main site www.delehag.com, where you can also read more about the campaign./H

ForestHull
16 Sep '21

Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting. It’s certainly an interesting project \ idea and even if it hasn’t turned out how you would have hoped, thank you for trying something different.

I hope the tower manages to survive, whatever it’s next chapter may be, and good luck to you too.

marymck
16 Sep '21

Hi @Henrik_Delehag thanks for clarifying. Is the Church actually deconsecrated or just reordered? I thought Communion still happened in the Chapel? But maybe I’m wrong or maybe the Chapel doesn’t need to be consecrated for that?

marymck
23 Sep '21

This story was on the BBC London opt-out just now.

robin.orton
23 Sep '21

The old Christ Church parish merged with St George’s when the old St George’s church was demolished and replaced by a new church. A new chapel was constructed using the upper part of the old Christ Church east end. Services of Holy Communion are (or were before Covid) regularly held in the chapel. So far as I know, there was no formal de- or reconsecration, though I expect the new chapel was blessed.

ThorNogson
24 Sep '21

Nice tv piece and you get an idea of the views. Begins at 18 min in this BBC news you linked to.

ForestHull
27 Sep '21

A good little video on the BBC website about this project too: